The creator of K-Love radio - Bob Anthony
Updated: Sep 18
A new music industry blossomed when radio stations began giving Christian Music artists a platform to reach millions nationwide. In a world where Christian radio was dominated by pay-for-play teaching and preaching programs one guy had a new idea. His name is Bob Anthony. You'll hear how a rock and roll Top 40 DJ helped ignite an all new way to share the Gospel. He put the first high energy, lively and engaging music driven radio station on the air in the late 70's that proved successful in building a new kind of Christian radio audience. Young contemporary artists emerged and began to write a new kind of worship music, many of which took their origins from the book of Psalms or other scripture and gave them a good beat, catchy melody and created hit music that glorified God. That was the start of what has become the worlds largest Christian radio network, K-LOVE, that reaches 7 million people every week with positive and encouraging music in a presentation that is not unlike what Top 40 stations have been doing for years. You can watch the complete K-LOVE story beginning with Bob Anthony's original idea right up to the legendary place it holds in contemporary Christian Music today on this YouTube video. https://youtu.be/GzLrjdleLXk
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BOB ANTHONY AT A GLANCE
Top 40 Radio DJ • K-LOVE Founder • Christian Broadcaster • Teacher
Topics
Top 40 radio • KHJ • KFRC • K-LOVE • Christian radio • Contemporary Christian music • Faith • Obedience • Evangelism • Bible • Radio ministry • Gospel Spots
His Faith Journey
Catholic upbringing → Early belief in Jesus → Christian commitment → Radio success → Conviction to surrender everything to God → K-LOVE vision → Christian radio ministry → Gospel outreach → Continuing ministry
This Episode Explores
Bob Anthony's rise through major-market Top 40 radio
His dream of working at KHJ in Los Angeles
His years at legendary station KFRC
Why success and material possessions left him spiritually unsettled
The decision to give his life completely to Jesus
The yellow-pad idea for a Christian version of KFRC
The emergence of contemporary Christian music
Launching the first K-LOVE station in Santa Rosa
Bringing major-market radio professionalism to Christian broadcasting
How the K-LOVE name was developed
The growth of K-LOVE into a national network
Why Bob eventually left K-LOVE to pursue broader evangelistic outreach
His continuing desire to "finish strong" in serving God
Questions Answered
Who is Bob Anthony?
How did Bob Anthony get into Top 40 radio?
How did Bob Anthony get to KHJ in Los Angeles?
What was Bob Anthony's role at KFRC?
Why did Bob Anthony leave Top 40 radio?
How did Bob Anthony come up with the idea for K-LOVE?
When did K-LOVE first go on the air?
Why did Bob Anthony model K-LOVE after KFRC?
How did contemporary Christian music influence Christian radio?
How did K-LOVE get its name?
Why did Bob Anthony leave K-LOVE?
What is Gospel Spots?
How does Bob Anthony describe his calling from God?
What Bible verses have shaped Bob Anthony's life?
What does Bob Anthony mean by "count the cost"?
Podcast Transcript: Bob Anthony on Radio, K-LOVE, Faith & Following God's Call
Amazing Greats with Ric Hansen
From Top 40 Radio to Christian Radio
Ric Hansen:Hi, this is Ric Hansen with Amazing Greats. How are you doing today? Glad you're here with us.
We have an exciting story to tell today — a gentleman, a broadcast buddy of mine, who started in regular old Top 40 radio back in the '70s and was a huge success in Top 40 radio.
But it all came to a screeching halt when he had an idea.
We're going to find out about that idea and his life story, all here on Amazing Greats.
He was the founder of one of the greatest contemporary Christian radio station networks in the world.
Here's the story of Bob Anthony.
I'm on Zoom with my friend Bob Anthony in Spokane, Washington, live and direct.
Good morning, Bob, and thanks for taking some time with us.
Bob Anthony:Hey there, Ric.
Ric Hansen:So, in the radio business, a move from Spokane to the number-two radio station in the country, KHJ in Los Angeles, was a humongous leap in the radio business.
Here you are in a little medium-sized market, maybe even small market, going to the number-two market.
Walk us through how that happened, Bob.
Bob Anthony:I had written down as my goal in radio when I was 19 and hadn't even done my first air shift.
I wrote down, "My goal in radio is to work at 93 KHJ in Los Angeles — Boss Radio."
That's what I wanted.
And so that was tough. That was a tough decision.
The program director flew us down first class, met us at Universal Studios, wined and dined us.
How could I say no?
Ric Hansen:Yeah.
Bob Anthony:I was offered a job working now with Charlie Tuna, Machine Gun Kelly, Bobby Ocean — all these legendary radio names.
How could I say no?
The Decision That Changed Everything
Ric Hansen:And then you went to KFRC.
I think we've got to move this along because you had such an amazing career back then.
So this was the concept here: You really moved quickly along the fast track of radio in the '70s, which is fantastic.
Now you're at KFRC.
But then the shocking news is that Bob Anthony is leaving KFRC in San Francisco, another legendary radio station, and you're going to start this new thing.
It started on a yellow pad somewhere.
Tell us that story.
Bob Anthony:Well, the real story there, Ric, is that I made a momentous lifetime decision.
This is where you have to say, "Well, something happened that made you leave a three-hour-a-day job sitting down — no jackhammers, no pickaxes, no canary in a coal mine."
This was a good job.
I had a nice gig following Dr. Don Rose. It'd be fun driving over the Golden Gate Bridge listening to Dr. Don Rose, coming up at nine o'clock, Bob Anthony, and he'd make some joke about me.
I'm thinking, "This doesn't get any better. I'm in heaven. I'm in radio heaven."
Ric Hansen:Exactly.
Bob Anthony:Well, the thing for me was, yes, I had gained — for me, I'd gained the world.
I had my list that I had made as a younger, foolish man.
I had my cool cars — they were cool cars, a lot of fun stuff. We could talk about cars.
I had the house with the pool. I had the job that I'd always wanted. I had all those things.
But I also had a verse from my childhood.
I was raised in a Christian home, and I always believed Jesus is exactly who He said He was — the Son of God. He died on the cross for our sins, He died and rose again, and He's coming back.
I believed all of those things. I never had a problem with that.
Some people don't believe. I believe.
But I also was not living 100% for God.
And there was a verse that said, "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"
Well, I gained — you know, I wasn't Jeff Bezos. He wasn't even around.
Ric Hansen:He wasn't born yet.
Bob Anthony:There was no Amazon yet.
But I knew that I wasn't right with God.
And so I had to make the decision: Am I really ready?
Jesus said, "Count the cost."
I counted the cost.
What would happen to my life? What would God do if I really said, "I'm totally, 1,000% committed"?
You can do anything. You can ask me to sell everything. You can ask me to do whatever.
If you want me going to San Francisco International Airport and handing out flowers and saying, "Jesus loves you," and begging for quarters because that's what You told me — there it is. I'll do that.
Coming into KFRC, I would see the people on Market Street with Bibles yelling at people to repent, and I'm going, "God, would I have to do that?"
Ric Hansen:But that wasn't where God had you.
Bob Anthony:That wasn't God's plan for me. It was a plan for that other guy with the baggy jeans.
So I gave my life 100%.
I did the posture of submission. I got on my knees and just said, "God, whatever You want."
Ric Hansen:Well, that is amazing.
Bob Anthony:Jesus said, "Count the cost."
I didn't do it immediately. It took me two weeks.
Ric Hansen:Two weeks is pretty much—
Bob Anthony:Well, okay, fine. Yeah, two weeks.
But I thought, "What if I could have gotten hit by a big blue truck while I'm still thinking?"
You know, God says, "You didn't make the decision in time."
But that's not God.
The Yellow Pad
Ric Hansen:So then this — the yellow pad.
I love the story about the yellow pad because I use them all the time, and I know you do too.
That's where plans are made.
Bob Anthony:Well, because we have an office-supply fetish.
I like to hang out in Staples in the envelope aisle.
Ric Hansen:Is that Ric again in Staples?
Bob Anthony:Oh yeah.
Ric Hansen:So on your pad, you had a game plan for this new idea, right?
Bob Anthony:Well, the idea didn't come after I got up off my knees.
It came about six months later.
I'm living in Sausalito and just sitting at my desk with a blank yellow pad, and the thought came to me:
"What would a Christian KFRC sound like?"
With that level of professionalism, because that was a big, impactful thing in my life — KFRC.
Ric Hansen:Yeah.
Bob Anthony:It won Radio Station of the Year five years in a row.
Creating a Christian Version of KFRC
Ric Hansen:So KFRC was, for a lot of people, the Top 40 radio station of their past.
It's fast-paced, hot rotation of music. You hear all your favorite songs over and over again over a period of a day, and they were the hits.
You got the hits, you got this fast-paced radio station with DJs, jingles — those things that sing the call letters — all that stuff at KFRC.
How did that translate, then, in your mind and on your yellow pad to what K-LOVE began to be?
Bob Anthony:It was a moment of clarity for me.
We wanted a station that would be like KFRC and unlike what Christian radio pretty much was at the time, which was preaching, teaching, and music as a filler.
It wasn't the format ingredient the way most radio stations are, secular stations.
Ric Hansen:What time period are we talking about here? Was this the 1980s by now?
Bob Anthony:No, this was 1978.
I gave my life 100% to the Lord probably in the spring of '78, and by the fall of '78, literally, I'm sitting at my desk and writing, "A Christian KFRC?" with a question mark.
And I knew what that meant to me.
These were just my notes for myself.
Top-level professionalism, top to bottom. A good signal.
And one of the things I wrote down on the yellow pad was, "No Christianese."
Talk right. Talk normal. Talk the way people talk.
Don't start sounding like you're from another planet.
The Birth of Contemporary Christian Radio
Ric Hansen:We're talking with Bob Anthony. He was the guy that started it all with K-LOVE.
At that time, there was really not even a category of contemporary Christian music like there is today.
There were some songs, and it was kind of a blossoming new idea.
Was that a struggle — to find enough music that you considered non-Christianese, pop, Top 40 music in the Christian world?
Bob Anthony:Contemporary Christian music was out there, and it had been out there and growing since the early '70s.
In fact, here in Spokane, probably right around the late '60s, early '70s, remember Wilson McKinley? Do you remember that group?
Ric Hansen:Well, they were very—
Bob Anthony:You probably had already left by that time to head to the big time, Ric.
But Wilson McKinley was probably one of the top bands in Spokane.
They all got saved, and they were at the I Am Coffee House doing Christian music. This is like late '60s, 1970 or so.
So there was contemporary Christian music where rock-and-roll groups were starting to do it.
Chuck Girard — he was with the Hondells — was doing it out of Calvary Chapel.
The group Love Song, Second Chapter of Acts, Keith Green, Phil Keaggy, John Fischer, Pam Mark Hall.
There were quite a number of them. A lot of them were in Southern California or Northern California at the time.
But as I dug into it, I saw, "Well, we may just be able to squeak by."
Ric Hansen:One of the amazing things about early contemporary Christian radio is that radio drove the Christian music scene.
Bob Anthony:Absolutely. Very much.
Ric Hansen:Now there was a place where it was going to be played on a regular basis in a great professional atmosphere, and people were going to have an audience.
And so now you have these people flooding — well, I don't know if it's flooding, but at least being attracted to the idea of creating great Christian music in a rock format, right?
Bob Anthony:Right. Yeah. That's exactly what happened.
One of the first things I did was contact — I did the research to find out, "Who are these Christian record companies?"
Well, it was Sparrow and Word.
I got a hold of them, and they graciously allowed this person in San Francisco claiming to have an idea for a Christian radio station to actually be put on their list to receive all this product.
Which, in hindsight, is like, "Well, that's another God thing," because I wouldn't have believed me.
K-LOVE Goes on the Air
Ric Hansen:So, to fast-forward, the idea was planted and it started maturing, and then it went on the air in Santa Rosa, correct?
Bob Anthony:1982.
Ric Hansen:And you purchased this radio station in Santa Rosa?
Bob Anthony:That was out of a bankruptcy situation.
We had been working for about three years up to that point to somehow get a radio station or convince some other station to change their format and let us do it or whatever.
We tried everything.
We wanted a 100,000-watt station in San Francisco. That's what we wanted.
It would have been several million dollars to buy that.
But we were full of faith and we thought, "Well, God can do anything, so we're just going to put it all out there."
Well, we didn't get the 100,000 watts in San Francisco.
We got 450 watts in Santa Rosa at the end of a building, about two feet off the ground, with the antenna.
So it didn't go very far.
Ric Hansen:But as the saying goes, you were blooming where you were planted, and that's where it all started.
So you put the format on the air.
Did you see immediate success, or did it take a while to kind of get an audience together?
Bob Anthony:Well, we actually started pretty quickly.
When we got the station in '81, it took us about a year to get on the air.
The competing applicant — the person at the bankruptcy who was bidding on the station there with us — was the owner of the tower that our equipment was on.
As he walked out of the courtroom, he said, "Well, you won the station, but you lose. Get off my tower."
Ric Hansen:Oh my gosh.
Bob Anthony:So here's this antenna and coax and transmitter and all that.
We relocated all of it — literally relocated the transmitter from inside a transmitter building right into the production room of the radio station.
So production became kind of difficult sometimes with that fan blowing.
It took us a year.
During that year, we created a volunteer team that was doing promotion.
We were doing concerts. We were talking to churches. We were training board operators on how to run the board. We were gathering the music. We were creating the hot clocks.
We were building this radio station from the ground up with the idea that as soon as we could get approval from the FCC — which came about a year later, with all the engineering that had to be done and moving everything — we would be ready.
We actually hit the ground pretty strong.
We hit the ground running in Santa Rosa.
Bringing Major-Market Radio to Christian Broadcasting
Ric Hansen:When the format went on the air, what were the elements that you were able to reconstruct from your KFRC knowledge and awareness?
Were we talking about news? Did you do jingles? Did you have those kind of cool DJs between the songs?
Bob Anthony:No. Those are expensive, Ric.
It took a while.
I did the morning show, though. So I like to think, well, at least we started the day sounding like KFRC in a fairly professional manner.
I had the radio friends of mine. Not all of them were believers at the time, but I had all of my KFRC friends.
Mike Novak, Big Tom Parker, Bobby Ocean, Jack Friday — all these folks contributed production elements, sweepers and voicers.
So to the average listener who tuned in, they're hearing San Francisco, major-market disc jockeys doing things.
It's a little bit smoke and mirrors.
We started having basically voice-tracked shows.
And we had to be — I'm sure there were other people who were doing voice-tracked shows in the early '80s — but we had to be among the pioneers because we wanted it to have that major-market level: tight, bright and professional.
We didn't have money to hire disc jockeys and things, and we didn't want to have volunteers who really weren't at that level doing things either.
How K-LOVE Got Its Name
Ric Hansen:On Amazing Greats today, we're talking with Bob Anthony, a former DJ who bought a radio station and started an all-new format called contemporary Christian radio on K-LOVE.
So how did the term K-LOVE come into existence?
Bob Anthony:Well, you can't call it KCLB.
Let's have something else that's more befitting, something that would fit all across the country.
Dick Jenkins and Burkhart did some research and felt that K-LOVE was the best that they could figure out.
Ric Hansen:So K-LOVE could drop in any market anywhere in this kind of network scenario.
Bob Anthony:Well, almost any market.
In Los Angeles, there's a big Spanish station that was K-LA-V, and K-LOVE — so that had to be worked out, and it was.
And I think there was another station, I don't know, Dallas or something else, that was also K-LOVE, but that had to be worked out as well.
So the network idea was off and running with Dick Jenkins and others.
At that point I was a consultant, and I had moved to Portland and started Spirit FM, another contemporary Christian music station in Portland at 107.5 FM.
Spirit FM and the Growth of K-LOVE
Ric Hansen:With the same concept — the K-LOVE format brought to Christian radio.
Bob Anthony:Yep.
And we actually did have more live disc jockeys on the air.
Brian O'Neill was on there for some time, and another friend of mine, Ron Erickson, was on.
I did a show as well, but there was a lot of voice tracking.
Ric Hansen:And Joe Michaels, our friend Joe, was on Spirit FM, and Ed Daly and a number of others — Larry Wayne.
So at that point you'd stepped away from, other than consulting, working on a day-to-day basis with what was then becoming K-LOVE.
What was K-LOVE's upward projection? Were they adding stations constantly?
Bob Anthony:If you go to, I think it's called the K-LOVE Story, you see a map with a timeline, and the map is showing the K-LOVE signals that start appearing around the country.
I still have my jaw drop when I see it because this is a God thing.
Ric Hansen:Well, now there is, in the neighborhood, I think the figure that I saw last was over 500 K-LOVE radio signals across the country.
They reach like seven million people a week at this point.
So this little idea of a guy who gave his life to Jesus and said, "Use me as You see fit," has grown into this huge, amazing network — the largest in the world network of Christian music radio stations.
So now you sit back. Here you are in Spokane and you've stepped away.
I guess, before we get to that, I want to know what were the circumstances by which you stepped away from the K-LOVE organization altogether?
Why Bob Left K-LOVE
Bob Anthony:Let's see, that was about 2002.
So I'd been doing it for 20-some years at that point.
I saw that there was a need for us, from an evangelistic standpoint, to fish on the other side of the boat, so to speak.
The nets were being cast on one side of the boat, I felt.
There's certainly a harvest there, but there was a whole other group of people that needed to be reached who weren't listening to K-LOVE.
They're listening to all the other radio stations.
So in the '90s, I started a ministry called Gospel Spots, where we would put evangelistic 30-second radio and TV spots on secular mainstream radio and TV stations.
One of the things we did in the late '90s was put a commercial literally during the Super Bowl, during Paul McCartney's halftime appearance.
We put a 30-second evangelistic, very bold gospel message right there.
That's what Gospel Spots was all about.
We did that for 10 years after the K-LOVE thing.
Ric Hansen:I gotcha.
"It's a Simple Matter of Obedience"
Ric Hansen:Looking back now, and you're kind of the godfather of K-LOVE — I mean, you're the guy who had the original idea and put the original idea into play — I just want to know how you feel about that.
Bob Anthony:I'm almost at a loss for words because really, God could have chosen anybody He wanted to.
There are those who say, "Well, if you say no, He's going to go on to the next person."
I don't know if that's how, theologically, how it works. I don't know. God knows.
But I just — it was a simple matter of obedience for me to do what I felt God called me to do.
I didn't, and I still don't, audibly hear God's voice.
I know people who say they do, and I believe them.
But I think if I heard God's voice, it would probably scare me to death, first off.
Ric Hansen:Yeah. What a great radio voice he must have.
Bob Anthony:It seemed good to me to use the talents that God gave me in radio, and I have a gift for teaching as well, and just for talking, to do something that used those gifts.
It didn't seem like God wanted me to go to San Francisco International Airport.
I was ready to do that, and I was really hoping that He wasn't calling me to screech at people on Market Street.
But I was ready if that's what He wanted.
At a certain point, with the yellow pad, we started Christian Media Ministries in order to accomplish this vision, and people were coming on board.
People who were high-level people in the business community and the Christian ministry community were joining with us.
Dave Lobby was a top-level executive with Hewlett-Packard and U.S. West — one of the top 12 or so vice presidents that they had.
He was on our board right from the start.
David Gilmore, who was with Youth for Christ, joined to help us in the fundraising side.
So God had all these other people in it.
It wasn't just me, and it was all God doing it anyway.
So He gets the glory. No human being gets the glory.
We just were obedient to do it.
All I want to do at this point, for me personally, is use whatever time God allows me to have.
I want to finish strong.
I want to endure to the end serving God.
So I've reserved BibleQuestionMan.com as a new ministry that I'm going to be doing here in the coming months.
And it's going to be kind of fun because I'm going to dig into those fun questions, the theological questions that people have.
Everybody has questions. There are so many opinions out there.
Bob's Personal Faith Journey
Ric Hansen:We're talking with Bob Anthony, a radio guy who started K-LOVE many, many years ago, and really the beginning of contemporary Christian radio.
Let's jump back, because we really haven't touched on the personal testimony of you as a human being.
You started this journey with Jesus at a very young age, as a Catholic student in Catholic schools.
Tell us about that journey, and how it maybe went from learning about Jesus to a relationship with Jesus.
Bob Anthony:Well, this is again where I never didn't believe, but I also had started observing over my life that there were a lot of opinions out there.
Everybody says, "Well, how are you saved?"
Well, it depends who you ask.
"Well, there's a biblical way to be saved."
"Oh, yeah, yes, I agree."
But it depends who you ask again, because there are those — and we won't name names — where one side says the other side is apostate and heretics, and vice versa.
And it's like, well, somebody's right.
So before I totally surrendered, I wanted to know: Who can I trust? What's the one voice that shows the way to eternal life? What's the truth?
Well, there is one person who said, "I am the way, the truth and the life," and that's Jesus.
So I thought, "Well, I'm going to study Jesus' words."
I would go through the Gospels and read what Jesus said.
And you know what? A lot of it was different from the things I was hearing other people say.
I'll just throw this out as a challenge: You want to readjust your theology, commit to reading the Gospel of Matthew over and over. Read it 30 times. Get back to me.
Things will change.
One of the most impactful short things that happened in my life was I met Dr. Charles Feinberg.
You say, "Who's that? I know Billy Graham. I know Dr. Dobson. Who is Charles Feinberg?"
Well, I didn't know who he was either.
He came to our church one time, and the introduction to him getting up to speak was, "By the way, Dr. Feinberg is going to speak here, and he reads through the entire Bible four times a year."
I mean, do the math. How much time does this guy spend reading the Bible?
Ric Hansen:Wow.
Bob Anthony:And so here he is at our church, and I didn't know he was famous. I didn't know until later in life who this person was.
I invited him to my house.
"Hey, Chuck, you want to come over to the house and talk for a while?"
Anyway, he came to our house.
And I came away thinking, "Wow."
First off, it's physically possible to read through the Bible four times in a year.
Ric Hansen:Yes, it is.
Bob Anthony:I committed to reading through the Bible.
"Let me see if I can do it once a year."
We'll do that.
Go through the Bible, Genesis to Revelation, every year, and do it for 40 years and see if your theology doesn't change a bit.
And it's really about God's Word.
So that's what's been impactful in my life.
It was a realization that, as Jesus said, "Count the cost."
The rich young ruler came and asked, "How do I gain eternal life?"
"You know the commandments. Do them, and you will live."
As part of being a Catholic, I actually knew the commandments — one through ten.
"I'm the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make, worship or serve an idol. Don't take God's name in vain," and so on.
Check them off.
Is that what you're doing?
Well, the first commandment is really the key.
Is God number one in my life?
And that's where Jesus says, "Count the cost."
Count the cost.
That was the aha moment.
"Okay, now I know what I really have to do."
That's the question.
Not everyone is ready to do it.
I was.
That's when I got on my knees and said, "Whatever You want, You got."
When Prayers Seem Unanswered
Ric Hansen:Have there been times, are there times that you can identify, that a prayer went unanswered?
A prayer that you thought was something God would address and acknowledge and fulfill, but didn't?
How do you deal with that?
Bob Anthony:Well, God's ways are higher than our ways, and my wisdom is foolishness to God.
I pray for healing for people that I know who are sick and have cancer and are terminal.
I'm praying that God would do a miraculous healing.
And some are, some aren't.
But God hears all of our prayers.
Whether we get a verbal answer or a check in the mail, that's up to God.
But He does hear all of our prayers.
A Life Verse
Ric Hansen:What about — and I ask this of everybody, and if you don't have one off the top of your head, that's okay too.
You've read the Bible multiple times.
Is there a verse where you say, "This is my life verse. This, in a nutshell, is a verse that is vital to me and my everyday life"?
Bob Anthony:There's a verse that one of the things Paul said in Romans:
"Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed."
And that's a great statement.
Of course, that's a big word, that word "belief," because it isn't just acknowledging that Jesus existed.
The demons know that, and they shudder.
They know that Jesus is the Son of God. They know that He died on the cross. They know all the things that are the basis of Christian theology.
Demons know those things.
What's the difference?
It's all about what does that mean to believe in the Lord Jesus?
But whoever does won't be disappointed.
My operating verse also is, "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"
So I'm always conscious of, "What are my priorities for the day? What are my priorities in life?"
Because they should be on godly things and have an eternal perspective of where we're going.
What kind of fruit are we developing here?
Are we bringing in fruit for the Kingdom?
Closing
Ric Hansen:God bless you, my friend. Thanks so much for your time.
Bob Anthony:Thank you, Ric. Thank you, Ric. My pleasure.
Ric Hansen:Wow, what a great story.
Top 40 radio DJ becomes a radio-station-format founder, and then he goes on to do all kinds of great things to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
And as you heard, he's not done yet.
So stay tuned. You'll find out more about what he's up to here on Amazing Greats.
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God bless you.
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