Mercy Corps’ Dan O’Neill Changed Millions!
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The ripple effect of a fund raising dinner at the home of entertainer Pat Boone continues to make a powerful impact on the world today. Last year alone 50 million people in 40 different countries were touched by the staff of 5400 team members at MERCY CORP. The star studded dinner, led to a dinner at the White House and gained the support of Jimmy and Roselyn Carter which gained the notoriety needed to spark the momentum that got the ball rolling.
In this episode of AMAZING GREATS you'll hear about the ugliness of war, and the 33 year mission to bring relief to those who were victims.
I talk with the one man who started it all in the late 70's, Dan O'Neill. He'll share his personal story of faith, and challenges as he grew one of the most powerful relief organizations in the world. From the birth of his miracle child to the reality of panic attacks and PTSD after spending time in devastated war torn countries. Real and raw he takes us on his life journey.
Dan is a writer who's written dozens of books, and despite keeping copious notes documenting his story through the years, he has yet to pen a memoir. It may be on his retirement game plan.
For Contemporary Christian music fans, you'll love Dan's biography of his good friend and the grandfather of modern Christian music, John Michael Talbot. It's called SIGNATURES
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Ric Hansen
DAN O'NEILL AT A GLANCE
Founder of Mercy Corps and Christian humanitarian leader who turned a personal response to the Cambodian refugee crisis into a global relief organization.
Topics
Mercy Corps · humanitarian aid · Cambodia · refugees · Christian faith · Catholic conversion · war zones · Rwanda · prayer · trauma · John Michael Talbot · storytelling
His Faith Journey
Evangelical family → searching through Scripture and church history → Israel and the ancient Christian tradition → Catholic conversion → faith expressed through humanitarian service
This Episode Explores
How Mercy Corps began with the Cambodian refugee crisis
Pat and Shirley Boone's role in the early Save the Refugees effort
Dan O'Neill's experiences in Cambodia, Rwanda and other conflict zones
The growth of Mercy Corps into a global humanitarian organization
Why Dan spoke boldly about human rights
His journey from evangelical Christianity into the Catholic Church
His friendship with John Michael Talbot
The psychological impact of witnessing war and mass violence
How contemplative prayer and mindfulness helped him process trauma
Seeing Jesus in suffering and marginalized people
Dan's understanding of faith amid horrific human evil
His continuing calling as a storyteller
Questions Answered
Who is Dan O'Neill?
What is Mercy Corps?
How did Mercy Corps begin?
What happened during the Cambodian refugee crisis?
What role did Pat Boone play in Mercy Corps' beginnings?
Why did Dan O'Neill become Catholic?
How did Dan O'Neill meet John Michael Talbot?
What did Dan experience in Rwanda?
How did Dan process the trauma of witnessing war?
How did prayer help Dan O'Neill?
Where did Dan see God in humanitarian crises?
What does Dan plan to do after retiring from Mercy Corps?
Core Story
Dan O'Neill began with a simple conviction that he had to respond to the suffering of Cambodian refugees. What started as a small, faith-driven effort became Mercy Corps, a global humanitarian organization working in some of the world's most difficult environments. Along the way, Dan experienced wars, refugee crises and mass violence firsthand, while also developing a deeper Christian faith rooted in Scripture, prayer and service. His story is ultimately about responding to suffering, seeing Christ in vulnerable people, and using storytelling to motivate others to help.
Dan O'Neill: Mercy Corps, Faith, Humanitarian Work & Finding God in the Hardest Places
Amazing Greats with Ric Hansen
From One Man’s Mission to Mercy Corps
Ric Hansen:This is Amazing Greats. We take a deep dive into the amazing life stories of authors, actors, athletes, musicians, and awesome world leaders like our guest today, Dan O'Neill.
Here's a guy who started out on a one-man mission to make the world a better place and ended up building one of the largest relief organizations in history—Mercy Corps.
What a great conversation with a guy who's helped change millions of lives, literally, for the better.
Dan O'Neill, thank you for being with us today.
Dan O'Neill:Great to be with you, Rick. Thank you so much.
Ric Hansen:Let's start with the fact that you are the founder and led for years an organization called Mercy Corps.
Mercy Corps is a relief organization. I'm going to have you tell us a lot more about that, but they've been around since you started in their infancy in 1979, and they continue today, although you are retired.
For those who don't know, what is Mercy Corps and what is its mission?
Dan O'Neill:Mercy Corps is a global humanitarian aid organization that works in various sectors: business, microenterprise, financial assistance, loans, emergency relief, displaced persons and refugee camps, conflict management and war zones—a broad sort of mandate.
We now have about 6,000 staff working in 42 of the toughest countries of the world.
Cambodia and the Birth of a Mission
Ric Hansen:You were there at the beginning. You started it, although it wasn't called Mercy Corps in those days.
Let's go back and retrace some of those early days. How did this all come about? How did you get the calling to do what you did?
Dan O'Neill:Back in 1979, my wife Cherry and I were working with Youth With a Mission as volunteers at their Hawaii headquarters. I was the art director, and Cherry had her own mission there.
We kept seeing these daily news broadcasts—which were then delayed by two days while they shipped two-inch videotape from New York out to Hawaii.
The broadcasts were about the Cambodian refugee catastrophe and the killing fields.
It was a horrific humanitarian scenario in which I felt that we must do something.
The reason I thought we should do something was because, back in the 1960s and early 1970s, America's ill-fated Vietnam War not only killed a million people in direct combat and violence, but it destabilized Cambodia through secret bombing and invasions, which brought down the government.
The Khmer Rouge, the radical communist regime, took over.
They executed people with eyeglasses, people with executive positions, and people with political opinions that didn't conform to theirs. They killed more than 800,000 people—some say 850,000.
Millions fled to Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and other places. Many died from starvation, illness or direct hostilities.
I thought that, as an American, I should do something—even if it were small.
It was sort of the Mother Teresa approach: I'm just going to deal with this one person or one situation as best I can, and that's all God would ask of me.
But it turned out to be a much larger endeavor.
The Pat and Shirley Boone Fundraiser
Ric Hansen:There was a fundraiser at the very beginning that helped launch the whole thing and gave you some national recognition. Tell us about that.
Dan O'Neill:Pat and Shirley Boone were very moved by the Cambodia crisis, and they asked me to organize a dinner in their home.
Pat basically opened up his Rolodex, so I invited all the super-pastors of the era—Oral Roberts, Robert Schuller, Billy Graham's son, Lauren Cunningham, the founder of Youth With a Mission, along with Hollywood people, agents and politicians.
We organized the dinner for November 19, 1979.
The kicker was that when I reached the White House and spoke at length with Rosalynn Carter, the first lady, she was fascinated by the whole idea and wanted to pitch in and help.
I invited her to the dinner as our special guest.
Ric Hansen:And suddenly you had a hot property going.
Dan O'Neill:You can imagine my shock when I got a phone call and the secretary said, “Is this Dan O'Neill?”
I said, “Yes.”
She said, “Can you hang on for Rosalynn Carter?”
She got on the phone and apologized profusely. She had a special event in the Rose Garden with President Jimmy Carter and couldn't come.
But she said, “Here's what I'll do. I'll send Reverend Dr. Bob Maddox, the special assistant to the president and religious liaison officer, and he'll come to the dinner. Then I will invite all of your guests to be my guests at the Rose Garden and a special dinner at the White House.”
The dinner came off. Bob was there and presented Rosalynn Carter's case that we should take advantage of this to raise money and start something called the Save the Refugees Fund.
That's what we did.
Rosalynn Carter later invited me to the White House, where I consulted with her at length.
She also helped me in the Seattle market by ordering the U.S. Postal Service to forward anything addressed to “Save the Refugees, Seattle, Washington” to me.
We would bank the money and then make special grants to mostly faith-based aid organizations working on the Cambodia-Thailand border.
That was our kickoff.
A Family Connection
Ric Hansen:For clarity, we're talking about Pat Boone—the singer, actor and Hollywood star—and his wife.
And you happen to be married to Pat Boone's daughter, Cherry Boone.
Dan O'Neill:Yes. Cherry and I have been in this mission ever since then, pretty much.
I plunged into it full-time. In the early days, I worked without a salary as a volunteer.
I had a donated office at World Concern in Seattle. The executive director, Art Beals, gave me a phone and an old metal Army-surplus desk.
And you were in business.
But at the loneliest day, Rick, you've got to know this: the earliest experience of despair I had in my life was staring at the phone in this darkened office and not knowing what to do next.
Ric Hansen:Yeah.
Dan O'Neill:So I started making calls.
I called people, spoke in churches, flew around the country, did radio and television.
People responded very generously.
We took that faith in us very seriously as a mandate to proceed.
Cambodia: Seeing the Crisis Firsthand
Ric Hansen:Did you go to Cambodia during that initial period? Did you experience what was actually happening on the ground?
Dan O'Neill:Yes. In early 1980, I went to examine the field offices and programs of World Vision, World Concern, Food for the Hungry, Catholic Relief Services and other organizations working in refugee camps on the Cambodia-Thailand border.
The war was still going.
We were shelled for a couple of days by Khmer Rouge artillery and had to take cover several times.
There were generous Thai military people who took care of us and guided us around.
It was a bit of a baptism by fire.
I'd been in wars before, so you do what you have to do, keep your head down and proceed with the mission.
Becoming Mercy Corps
Ric Hansen:1981 was kind of a pivotal year for you personally and for Mercy Corps.
Was 1981 the year you actually became Mercy Corps?
Dan O'Neill:We decided to go out on our own and legally establish a new entity.
I called it Mercy Corps.
I checked the legal records to make sure the name wasn't already copyrighted or trademarked, and a volunteer lawyer helped us.
In July of 1982, we formally signed the documents at the Washington State Capitol, taking on the name Mercy Corps as a global agency.
Dan’s Journey to the Catholic Church
Ric Hansen:That same period also brought a major change in your spiritual life. Is that when you became Catholic?
Dan O'Neill:That was a longer story.
It was a pilgrimage of many years.
When I lived in Israel in 1973, I went through the Yom Kippur War because I lived on a kibbutz in Galilee and we were right in the heart of that conflict.
I had been searching the Scriptures. I was reading church history and the early Church Fathers, books on Jewish history and theology, and studying the relationship between the faiths.
I was also studying Islam. In that region, they talk about the “children of the book”—Jews, Christians and Muslims—all coming basically as an inheritance from Abraham.
I was raised in an evangelical family with eight generations of missionaries and ministers, some very prominent.
But on my own journey, I tapped into the ancient faith in a way that brought me to the realization in 1974 that I should enter the Catholic Church.
Ric Hansen:And is Cherry also Catholic?
Dan O'Neill:Yes. It was Easter of 1981 when we formally entered the Catholic Church.
We were living in Bothell, and it was St. Brendan's parish.
We're very open and welcoming of people of any Christian persuasion and any basic faith persuasion.
I feel a link with people on that level.
But at my heart, I'll always be a Christian.
My experience in conversion has enriched my life immensely.
An Amazing Greats Connection
Ric Hansen:I also went to St. Brendan's as a Catholic boy. We lived near Bothell, and that was the closest Catholic church to us.
So we may have been going to church at the same time and in the same place.
Dan O'Neill:We may have been.
We named our son Brendan after our experience at St. Brendan's.
And, by the way, Brendan's godfather is John Michael Talbot.
Ric Hansen:I want to hear that story too.
John Michael Talbot
Ric Hansen:For those who aren't familiar, John Michael Talbot is kind of the granddaddy of contemporary Christian music, and you are very close friends with him.
How did you guys connect?
Dan O'Neill:He had heard that I was a writer.
In a prior life, I'd written 14 books and edited many others.
One Saturday morning, about six o'clock, he called and said, “You probably don't know me, but I've been referred to you as a writer, and I have a story that I've got to tell.”
I knew his story. I'd spent time in recording studios during the CCM days, so I knew him by name.
We decided to meet in Indianapolis, where he was, and I said, “I'll interview you and take notes.”
He said, “I need a pamphlet.”
I came away from that meeting saying, “John, we need a book.”
So I wrote the book about his life, Troubadour for the Lord, which became a religious best-selling, award-winning biography of John Michael.
It was later reprinted and renamed Signatures.
In doing the book, we got to know each other very well.
He asked me to become the first board member of the monastery he was building in Arkansas.
I've been on the board ever since.
We're in regular touch—at least two or three times a week. We get on the phone, catch up on things and solve problems.
The Miracle of Their First Child
Ric Hansen:I want to jump back to your Mercy Corps story. Another major event happened in 1981—the birth of your first child.
Dan O'Neill:Yes, our daughter Brittany, who's now 40 years old and just had her second baby.
Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, doctors told Cherry specifically that she would never be able to bear children because of a severe eating disorder that had damaged her internally.
We were married in 1975, and right as Mercy Corps was being born, we found out Cherry was pregnant.
It seemed beyond belief.
Brittany was born in 1981.
We tried to turn off the faucet after that, and it didn't work very well.
We ended up with five kids—four daughters and one son.
Brittany is the oldest.
How Mercy Corps Grew
Ric Hansen:1981 seems like this crazy turnaround year in your life.
You formalized Mercy Corps, you became Catholic, and you had your first child.
But that was still very early in Mercy Corps.
How did it develop from a group of people raising funds into the giant organization that exists today?
Dan O'Neill:Without the infusion of energy, faith and guidance that I think God gave us, I could never have dreamed we would develop into the powerhouse agency that now exists.
In the 1980s there were wars in El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua.
We worked on several levels—conflict management, using diplomats and lawyers to speak with leaders and bring them together for off-the-record facilitated brainstorming sessions to address the issues of peace and the things dividing people.
At the same time, we worked with farmers in very poor regions, helping introduce new farming and fertilization methods and better ways to market their goods so they could have a self-sustaining village or town.
We worked with an organization called Project Global Village, eventually merging it into Mercy Corps.
That led us inevitably into the issue of human rights.
We spoke boldly about human rights issues in the region.
I began getting calls from large, recognized organizations, many of them faith-based, saying, “Dan, we noticed in your article in the Seattle Times that you're bringing up human rights issues. That's just a little too political for us. We'd advise you not to go there.”
I basically stood up and said, “No chance.”
We were going to speak the truth from the housetops and rooftops.
We would be discreet and careful, but we would be bold and speak the truth in areas where we felt it needed to be spoken.
We found the same thing in the war-ravaged Middle East, where Syria, Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon were locked in intractable conflicts.
Conflict was killing people, destroying societies and creating refugees.
That became another major field of work.
East Africa and Ethiopia
We also went to East Africa—to places like Somalia, which had begun to see the emergence of the military group that eventually led to al-Qaeda.
We worked with refugees in Somalia, Kenya, Uganda and Sudan.
Our first major government grant was to run truckloads of food and fuel into Ethiopia during the Ethiopian refugee crisis.
We did that for several years.
It was a dangerous, semi-covert mission in which we took truckloads of food to sustain refugees in Eritrea, Ethiopia and Tigray Province.
Speaking Out on Human Rights
Ric Hansen:When you took that stance on human rights and the politics surrounding it, was there pushback? Did you lose funding?
Dan O'Neill:We never lost any funds.
There was pushback.
Some organizations said they couldn't be affiliated with us because we were part of joint groups like ECFA and other faith-based organizations involved in relief aid.
We basically said, “Okay, we'll be on our way. We'll honor each other, but we'll disassociate on this matter because it's significant to us and often central to the mission.”
From Faith-Based to Non-Sectarian
Ric Hansen:You were originally considered a faith-based organization. That pivoted too, didn't it?
Dan O'Neill:In the beginning, as the Save the Refugees Fund, it was almost entirely faith-based and ecumenical.
We had a Catholic bishop deeply involved, along with John Michael Talbot and others.
Over time, we evolved into an organization that was more inclusive.
We began having Jewish and Muslim staff in different countries and found that being a non-sectarian organization, while still working according to our inner faith dynamics, was the way to go.
We didn't have the faith-based label anymore.
But the mission, as far as I'm concerned, was always inspired by my Christian faith.
On the Ground in Nearly 80 Countries
Ric Hansen:During all this time, were you actually hands-on? Were you face-to-face with many of these situations?
Dan O'Neill:Especially in the early days.
I was the one who would go out to the breaking situation with cameras or film.
Often we took a news person with us.
KING 5 sent crews with us. One of their anchors, Margaret Larson, went to three countries with me and did the stories.
I'd bring the stories back and do radio and television interviews, informing people and inspiring them to help fund us.
Over the years, I traveled to close to 80 countries.
I was in 12 really hot war zones.
I've kept daily journals from April 1972 until just a couple of years ago.
I've got several feet of journals with all the stories—every flight, every war, every humanitarian trip.
Ric Hansen:When's your autobiography coming out?
Dan O'Neill:I've been asked by several people, including a couple of publishers, to consider doing a memoir.
There are several magazines where I've published chapters.
The Seattle Times did a major story about one of my visits to Rwanda in 1994—the greatest catastrophe I've ever seen.
They said, “You could write 12 more of these.”
So I'm thinking about it.
The Yom Kippur War
Ric Hansen:Can you give us a visual of some of the worst scenarios you witnessed?
Dan O'Neill:The war in 1973 in the Middle East was one of the most catastrophic conflicts in the region.
I was working on a kibbutz in Israel, studying Hebrew and Jewish and Christian history.
On October 6, 1973, the ground began to shake.
I was in the kitchen doing KP duty. I turned to my friend and said, “Is that an earthquake?”
He casually said, “No. This is war.”
It was Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year. Nobody worked. No tractors were supposed to run. No airplanes were supposed to fly.
It was meant to be silent—a time of reflection and repentance.
But the ground was shaking.
Artillery was coming down on us from Syria in the Golan Heights.
I was asked to work in the orchards and handle the irrigation systems to keep the crops alive while the men went to the front lines.
At the end of one day, a representative from the U.S. Embassy came in.
“Are you Dan O'Neill?”
“Yes.”
“We've been informed that you're working here, and we're here to evacuate you.”
My heart was thumping.
The jets, sonic booms and rockets were going on all around us.
There was a temptation to say, “Yes, I need to get out of here.”
But I felt moved to say, “No. I think I'm going to stay.”
He said, “Are you sure? This is your last opportunity.”
I stayed.
I turned out to be the last American volunteer to remain on the kibbutz during the war, which lasted 18 days.
At the end of the war, I toured the battlefield with my camera and an Israeli general in a Jeep.
I photographed bodies, planes and helicopters that had been shot down, tanks that had been blown up with their crews, and the mass destruction of the area.
It was shocking.
We went beyond where Newsweek, Time magazine and the network news people could go.
I photographed and interviewed people and came back with an experience that became pivotal.
Rwanda, 1994
Another was Rwanda in 1994, where 800,000 people were killed in roughly 90 days.
The Hutus and Tutsis erupted into civil war, and I was one of the first aid workers on the ground.
I hitchhiked in on a United Nations C-130 Hercules from Kenya.
I had my backpack and camera and nowhere to go.
At the airport, there was no passport control and no air traffic control. They were gone.
A man recognized me and said, “We're from Samaritan's Purse. Do you need a place to stay? We've got a bunk.”
I said, “Yep.”
I hitchhiked through the town, filed a report and took lots of pictures.
The dismemberment of the bodies was shocking.
People were murdered with hatchets and machetes.
There were blood and skeletal remains in the ditches and even piled up in churches.
It was horrific.
I can't say I escaped the psychological damage of that.
It lasted for quite a while.
Living with Trauma
Ric Hansen:You experienced panic attacks and PTSD after some of these experiences.
Dan O'Neill:I did.
I had numerous panic attacks that I had to suppress, along with horrific dreams and visualizations.
I wasn't the kind of guy who went postal or pulled a gun on anybody. It was internalized—almost like a deep, destructive acid running through the heart of my being that I couldn't escape.
It lasted quite a while.
I was diagnosed by four different doctors and received therapy.
Through guided meditation and therapeutic assistance from doctors who were also friends, I eventually felt a total release from it.
I don't feel it anymore.
Ric Hansen:That's good to hear. Any residual effects now?
Dan O'Neill:It's really good news, and it's hard to explain unless you've been there.
When you witness something horrific and you're in the middle of it over time, it stays with you.
The same thing happened in Lebanon, Israel, Syria and the Balkans.
I picture it as a miniature camera or tape recorder inside you that's recording all of this.
It's there forever unless you find a way to appropriately digest it.
I had to find a way through various practices of prayerful meditation.
Faith, Prayer and Healing
Ric Hansen:How did your faith help in all of that? Was that a key role?
Dan O'Neill:Very much.
Jesus was anxious.
Remember in the Garden of Gethsemane when He was praying with the apostles and they were falling asleep? He was sweating blood because He knew He was about to be tortured to death on a Roman cross.
When Scripture talks about Jesus identifying with us in every possible way, that's one of them.
He experienced high anxiety.
Having felt that myself, it's comforting to know I'm not alone in it.
It's hard. It's not easy.
I don't think anybody who's been that deep into those kinds of scenarios really gets away unscathed.
For me, practicing meditative prayer, contemplative prayer and mindfulness—which I do a couple of times a day—really helped.
Mindfulness is defined as paying attention all the time, on purpose, without judgment.
That's the foundation I build my prayer life on.
Without that, I think I'd be floundering in the waters again.
Where Was God?
Ric Hansen:Where was God in all of it?
Where was Jesus for you as you tried to get through those experiences?
Dan O'Neill:First of all, I internalized Jesus as someone—God—whom I have taken into my life, and Jesus is dwelling within.
But when I see the orphan, the dying person, the beggar or the sick, I also see a dimension of Jesus in them.
Mother Teresa clearly identified not only with being the incarnational witness—being Jesus to the “least of these”—but also recognizing Jesus in them.
That brings about an overarching, spiritually based humanitarian sensibility.
I see Jesus in these people, the less fortunate.
It's like Matthew 25, and some of those clear dimensions where we see Jesus through His teaching.
The story of the Good Samaritan is another example.
The Samaritan reached out and helped the Jew even though there was great antipathy between Samaritans and Jews.
That scriptural lesson has continued with me throughout my life.
Wrestling with the Problem of Evil
Ric Hansen:When you were surrounded by bodies and dismemberments and all of that ugliness, did you ever think, “Where's God in all of this? How could a good God allow this to happen?”
Dan O'Neill:Yes.
Part of me immediately reacted, “How could this have been allowed to happen? Where was God?”
But then I reduced it to the scriptural story of Jesus' crucifixion.
When He was dying on the cross, He cried out:
“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani”—“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Even Jesus felt forsaken by God.
So I'm in a similar situation on a lesser scale when I'm in the presence of moral evil, destruction or death.
My first reaction is to recoil at the horror.
But then it's like this: we're living in a world where people are free agents to decide whether they're going to be murderous or loving.
Hebrew, Israel and the Scriptures
Ric Hansen:You studied Hebrew?
Dan O'Neill:Yes.
I began studying Hebrew on the kibbutz Ginnosaur, right on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee.
Then I continued for nine months on a kibbutz on the Mediterranean called Ma'agan Michael, where I was in an Ulpan—a language program where Jews from around the world, including many Americans, come to study Hebrew.
I was sort of the token Christian.
People would always ask, “What are you doing here?”
For me, it was about learning the language of the region, understanding the culture and exploring the richness of the Scriptures.
I could read the Jewish Bible a little and write.
I'm rusty now, but when I visit my closest friend among my Middle Eastern friends, an Israeli named Moshe, I can slip back into the accent and words.
We're the same age and were actually born in the same month that the State of Israel was born—in May of 1948.
I can also speak a few words of Arabic.
What's Next?
Ric Hansen:You seem so full of life and passion. What's next?
Are you going to sit around and watch Jeopardy?
Dan O'Neill:No, I don't watch Jeopardy.
I'm a newsaholic.
I watch CNN, listen to NPR, listen to the BBC for an hour every day, read the Seattle Times and sometimes the New York Times.
But when people ask what I'm going to do now, I say I'm going to visit my 96-year-old mother in Shelton, Washington.
Her name is Melba Jean, and she's in great shape. She's a wonder.
I'll play with my grandchildren. I've got four, and the fifth is on the way.
And I'll ride my motorcycle. I'm a lifelong motorcyclist.
Those are my pursuits, woven around the book you keep telling me I should write.
Ric Hansen:I have a suspicion you're going to relax and do that for a while, but there's something inside you saying, “I've got to do something meaningful.”
I think that book is what we're waiting for.
Dan O'Neill:It might be.
I think it could be the foundation for continuing to tell the story.
Part of what I did as an aid worker and fundraiser was storytelling—getting the story down concise, compelling, convicting and motivating.
As long as I can be a storyteller in some regard, I think that'll be enough for me until I see more specificity in the mission, so to speak.
Closing
Ric Hansen:Thank you so much for your time.
This has been enlightening, fun and informative. You're a great guest, and I appreciate it.
God bless you, Dan.
Dan O'Neill:Blessings to you, Rick. Thank you so much.
Ric Hansen:Wow. Another awesome look into how God works through the faithfulness of great guys like Dan O'Neill.
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